MEETING RECORD FOR THE 132nd MEETING OF THE
GREAT LAKES SCIENCE ADVISORY BOARD
HELD IN CONJUNCTION WITH "SCIENCE AND THE AGREEMENT" WORKSHOP


February 4 - 6, 2004 – Michigan League, Ann Arbor, Michigan



MEMBERS PRESENT


Michael J. Donahue (United States Co-chair) Great Lakes Commission, Ann Arbor, MI
William Bowerman Clemson University, Pendleton, SC
John Braden University of Illinois, Urbana, IL
David Carpenter University at Albany, Rensselaer, NY
Milton Clark (by teleconference) United States Environmental Protection Agency, Chicago, IL
Glen Fox Canadian Wildlife Service, Ottawa/Hull, ON
Allan Jones Burlington, ON
Bruce Krushelnicki Ontario Municipal Board, Toronto, ON
Donna Mergler University of Quebec, Montreal, PQ
Pierre Payment University of Quebec, Laval, PQ
Judith Perlinger Michigan Technological University, Houghton, MI
Joan Rose Michigan State University, East Lansing, MI
Deborah Swackhamer University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN

MEMBERS ABSENT


Isobel Heathcote (Canadian Co-chair) University of Guelph, Guelph, ON
Scott Brown National Water Research Institute, Burlington, ON
Lesbia Smith Toronto, ON
David Stonehouse Evergreen, Toronto, ON
Jay Unwin National Council for Air and Stream Improvement, Kalamazoo, MI

COMMISSIONERS ATTENDING


Herb Gray, Canadian Chair International Joint Commission, Ottawa, ON

INVITEES/OBSERVERS


Robert Allen U.S. CG, Cleveland, OH
Douglas Alley International Joint Commission, Windsor, ON
Kay Austin International Joint Commission, Washington, DC
Al Beeton Ann Arbor, MI
Lori Boughton Pennsylvania DEQ, Meadville, PA
Marty Bratzel International Joint Commission, Windsor, ON
Mark Burrows International Joint Commission, Windsor, ON
Murray Charlton NWRI, Burlington, ON
Jan Ciborowski University of Windsor, Windsor, ON
Joseph DePinto Limno-Tech Inc., Ann Arbor, MI
John Dettling Great Lakes Commission, Ann Arbor, MI
John Gannon International Joint Commission, Windsor, ON
Mike Gardiner U.S. GS, Cleveland, OH
Roger Gauthier Great Lakes Commission, Ann Arbor, MI
Gary Gulezian U.S. EPA, Chicago, IL
Nick Heisler International Joint Commission, Ottawa, ON
Philip Keillor Madison, WI
Gail Krantzberg International Joint Commission, Windsor, ON
Craig Mather Aurora, ON
John McDonald International Joint Commission, Windsor, ON
Ann MacKenzie International Joint Commission, Ottawa, ON
Ann McMillan Environment Canada, Gatineau, PQ
Jan Miller U.S. Corps of Engineers, Chicago, IL
John Mills Environment Canada, Downsview, ON
Lewis Molot York University, Toronto, ON
Paul Muldoon Canadian Environmental Law Association, Toronto, ON
John Nevin International Joint Commission, Ottawa, ON
James Nicholas U.S. GS, Lansing, MI
Victoria Pebbles Great Lakes Commission, Ann Arbor, MI
Andrew Piggott Environment Canada, Burlington, ON
Leah Quiring Transport Canada, Sarnia, ON
Dave Schwab NOAA, Ann Arbor, MI
Adel Shalaby Health Canada, Scarborough. ON
Harvey Shear Environment Canada, Scarborough, ON
Thomas Skinner U.S. EPA, Chicago, IL
Rebecca Temmer (intern) International Joint Commission, Windsor, ON

SECRETARY

Peter Boyer International Joint Commission, Windsor, ON


1. Background


The Parties are required to "conduct a comprehensive review of the operation and effectiveness of th[e] Agreement" following release of the Commission’s 12th biennial report in 2004. The Commission has committed to issue a special report providing advice to the Parties regarding the review and its role in the review. The Commission instructed its Boards / Council to explore the nature of the advice that it could provide. The lead was assigned to the Water Quality Board, with the Science Advisory Board, International Air Quality Advisory Board, and the Council of Great Lakes Research Managers contributing in their areas of expertise.


The Science Advisory Board is the scientific advisor to both the Commission and the Water Quality Board. To develop the requested advice, the Science Advisory Board held a workshop, Science and the Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement


2. Workshop Purpose


The purpose of the workshop was to help the Board develop sound and objective advice regarding review of the Agreement from a scientific perspective. The Board’s scientific advice will complement advice being developed by the Water Quality Board and others within the Commission family.


3. Workshop Structure

4. Workshop Questions


In their introductory remarks on February 4, the Science Advisory Board Drs. Donahue and Jones described the scientific focus of the workshop and provide insight into the preamble and the first four articles of the Agreement from a scientific perspective. They stated that the fundamental question is whether the stated purpose of the Agreement necessary and sufficient to meet present and future challenges.


The workshop focused on several themes related to the following other questions:

Finally, to conclude the workshop, a panel comprising the Board and Council co-chairs addressed the questions:

6. Agenda


The agenda for the meeting was as follows:


Wednesday, February 4
 
6:00 - 6:30 PM   Opening Reception
6:30 - 8:00 PM   Dinner at the Michigan League
7:00 - 8:30 PM   Introduction -- Workshop Purpose, Preamble, Articles I-IV & Annex 1:
  Michael Donahue & Allan Jones
 
Thursday, February 5
 
8:30 - 8:45 AM Goals & Objectives for Day 1: Michael Donahue & Allan Jones
8:45 - 9:30 Nutrients & Non-Point Sources -- Annexes 3 & 13 : Craig Mather & Jan Ciborowski
9:30 - 10:15 Persistent Toxic Substances -- Annex 12: David Carpenter & Milt Clark
 
10:15 - 10:45 Break
 
10:45 - 11:30 Dredging & Sediment -- Annexes 7 & 14: Joe de Pinto & Jan Miller
11:30 - 12:15 PM Groundwater -- Annex 16: Andrew Piggott & Jim Nicholas
 
12:15 - 1:30 Lunch
 
1:30 - 2:15 Airborne Toxic Substances -- Annex 15: Gary Foley & Ann Macmillan
2:15 - 3:00 RAPs & LaMPs -- Annex 2: Bill Bowerman & Lori Boughton
 
3:00 - 3:30 Break
 
3:30 - 4:15 “Coast Guard” Annexes -- Annexes 4-6 & 8-10: Mike Gardiner & Leah Quiring
4:15 - 5:00 Surveillance, Monitoring & Research -- Annexes 11 & 17; Deb Swackhamer & Harvey Shear
5:00 - 5:30 Wrap Up
5:30 PM Adjourn
 
Friday, February 6
 
8:30 - 8:45 AM Goals & Objectives for Day 2 : Michael Donahue & Allan Jones
8:45 - 10:00 Delivery of Science through the Agreement: Articles VII-XV Glen Fox & Harvey Shear
 
10:00- 10:30 Break
 
10:30 - 11:45 Integration & Development of Board Advice for the Commission Panel: Board & Council Co-Chairs
11:45 - 11:55 Observations & Workshop Summary: Plan for Moving Forward Mike Donahue & Allan Jones
11:55 - 12:00 Concluding Remarks: Commission Co-Chairs
12:00 Noon Adjourn

5. Workshop Findings and Conclusions:


The Board will develop a report on the outcome of the workshop under separate cover which will include recommendations for the Commission. Since the workshop was also a regularly scheduled meeting of the Science Advisory Board, a set of meeting notes was adopted by invitees and board members and is attached as reflecting an overview of the meeting.






Attachment 1



Science and the Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement
Preliminary Summary of Key Points From Sessions



Session #1 Wednesday Evening - Preamble, Purpose, Articles I-IV, & Annex 1

Question: Is the stated purpose of the Agreement necessary and sufficient to meet present and future challenges?

Session #2 Thursday - Agreement Annexes 2-17

Questions: (1) What is the present state of the science associated with this element of the Agreement? Is the scientific knowledge implicit in the Agreement necessary and sufficient to achieve the purpose of the Agreement? Why, or why not? (2) If not, what new or additional scientific knowledge is required? (3) What new elements might be required and what is the state of the science to support them?


Annex 2

Annex 3 & 13

Annexes 7 & 14

Annex 12

Annex 15

Annex 16

Annexes 4-6 & 8-10

Annexes 11 & 17

Session #3 Friday AM – Articles VII-XV; Delivery of Science Through the Agreement

Question: Can the existing Agreement accommodate present and future issues, including but not limited to alien invasive species, habitat, land use, climate change, biodiversity, pathogens, new chemicals and long range transport of atmospheric pollutants?


Scope of Agreement:

Session #4 Integration Panel – Institutional Arrangements to Facilitate Science/Policy Linkages

Questions:

  1. Do current institutional arrangements under the Agreement help or hinder the application of science?
  2. Are current Great Lakes research institutions organized to deliver science in the 21st century?
  3. How can science/policy linkages be undertaken by the Parties?
  4. How might a detailed scientific review be undertaken by the Parties?
A Few Additional, Overarching Post Meeting Reflections
  1. The Agreement is only important if implementation is improved.
  2. The relevance of monitoring is important to understanding the state of the lakes and also to evaluate program effectiveness.
  3. The current agreement even if out of date and imperfect, does not preclude addressing future challenges.
  4. The institutional arrangements in the Agreement do not reflect current practice, and the current arrangements may not necessarily be the only way or the most effective way of accomplishing binational cooperation, coordination and implementation.